WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.000 ♫ music ♫ 2 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:10.000 John: About a week ago I brought 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:12.000 our 21 foot Seabird project boat 4 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:14.100 over here on the ?? Marina and fuel dock 5 00:00:14.100 --> 00:00:16.100 in order to put a little bit of gas 6 00:00:16.100 --> 00:00:18.100 into the craft. And I took off 7 00:00:18.100 --> 00:00:20.100 the fuel cap and I put it on the gunnel. 8 00:00:20.100 --> 00:00:22.100 And as I was messing around I kind of 9 00:00:22.100 --> 00:00:24.100 bumped it into the water and I lost it. 10 00:00:24.100 --> 00:00:26.100 Okay, not a big deal I went to the marine 11 00:00:26.100 --> 00:00:29.000 store and I tried to find a replacement cap. 12 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:31.000 But what I've noticed is there's now 13 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:32.600 different replacement caps out there. 14 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:35.100 There's ones in blue packaging, like right here. 15 00:00:35.100 --> 00:00:37.100 There's also ones now in the stores that 16 00:00:37.100 --> 00:00:38.600 have green packaging. 17 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:40.600 And obviously there is a difference 18 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:43.000 that's going on and we 19 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:45.200 again have Richard Cozier on the program. 20 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.600 Richard is an expert in this. He's from Perko. 21 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:49.600 And Richard thank you so much for coming by. 22 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:51.000 Richard: John thanks for giving me a call again. 23 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.000 John: My Seabird is from 1976. 24 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:56.400 I probably redid the fuel system about eight years ago on it. 25 00:00:56.400 --> 00:00:58.400 And what type of a 26 00:00:58.400 --> 00:01:00.900 whole fuel system do I have in my particular boat? 27 00:01:00.900 --> 00:01:03.700 Richard: John basically prior to 2011 28 00:01:03.700 --> 00:01:06.600 marine fuel systems were very simple. 29 00:01:06.600 --> 00:01:08.400 They consisted of three parts. 30 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:09.900 The fuel lever sender, 31 00:01:09.900 --> 00:01:12.900 either a vented or a sealed fuel fill 32 00:01:12.900 --> 00:01:14.900 and a vent to the atmosphere. 33 00:01:14.900 --> 00:01:16.400 John: And that's what I have on the Seabird. 34 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:17.900 This is my configuration. 35 00:01:19.300 --> 00:01:21.700 Richard: After 2011, the EPA 36 00:01:21.700 --> 00:01:23.700 stepped in and said all boat manufacturers 37 00:01:23.700 --> 00:01:25.700 basically must now control diurnal 38 00:01:25.700 --> 00:01:27.700 emissions or hydrocarbons 39 00:01:27.700 --> 00:01:30.300 which is fuel vapor coming out of the tanks. 40 00:01:30.300 --> 00:01:32.300 So in doing so, 41 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.300 the tanks got much more complex. 42 00:01:35.300 --> 00:01:37.600 They now create what's called a "ullage space" 43 00:01:37.600 --> 00:01:39.600 or an air gap inside the tank. 44 00:01:39.600 --> 00:01:42.900 They do not vent to the atmosphere. They are sealed systems. 45 00:01:42.900 --> 00:01:45.900 They now use tank vent valves, 46 00:01:45.900 --> 00:01:47.900 fill limit valves 47 00:01:47.900 --> 00:01:50.300 and inlet check valves 48 00:01:50.300 --> 00:01:53.000 that control fuel spillage back up the tank 49 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.000 that's called wellback or spitback. 50 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.000 John: Okay now why is though Richard, 51 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.000 when you go into the marine store you look at two 52 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:00.700 caps like these right here. 53 00:02:00.700 --> 00:02:03.700 They look identical. These are replacement caps. 54 00:02:03.700 --> 00:02:05.400 Why did they have to change the cap? 55 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:07.600 Richard: Well basically because the older 56 00:02:07.600 --> 00:02:09.200 system cap is vented. 57 00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:11.500 If you turn it over, these two caps 58 00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:13.500 as you can see are different. 59 00:02:13.500 --> 00:02:16.300 This one is vented, this one is sealed. 60 00:02:17.300 --> 00:02:19.700 John: What would happen if I took a sealed cap 61 00:02:19.700 --> 00:02:21.700 and I put it on to my old system on the 62 00:02:21.700 --> 00:02:24.100 Seabird which is one that vents to the atmosphere. 63 00:02:25.100 --> 00:02:26.600 Richard: That gets very dangerous. 64 00:02:26.600 --> 00:02:28.700 That's part of why we're here discussing this. 65 00:02:28.700 --> 00:02:30.700 Because if you take a sealed cap 66 00:02:30.700 --> 00:02:32.600 and put it on to a vented system 67 00:02:32.600 --> 00:02:34.600 you're now closing off that system. 68 00:02:34.600 --> 00:02:36.200 You can over pressurize your tank. 69 00:02:36.200 --> 00:02:38.000 John: And that's dangerous? Richard: That's dangerous. 70 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.500 Richard: On the vice versa if you take a vented cap 71 00:02:40.500 --> 00:02:42.900 and put it on to a sealed fill, 72 00:02:42.900 --> 00:02:44.900 okay it's now defeating 73 00:02:44.900 --> 00:02:46.900 the EPA regulation 74 00:02:46.900 --> 00:02:50.200 and allowing emissions to come out through the fuel cap. 75 00:02:50.200 --> 00:02:52.200 John: Okay so for people at home this might be a 76 00:02:52.200 --> 00:02:54.500 little bit confusing but you're trying to make it easier on them. 77 00:02:54.500 --> 00:02:55.200 Richard: Correct. 78 00:02:55.200 --> 00:02:57.200 John: You have blue packaging for boats 79 00:02:57.200 --> 00:03:00.900 with fuel systems on a 2011 and older 80 00:03:00.900 --> 00:03:03.700 and these green ones over here these are for the newer boats. 81 00:03:03.700 --> 00:03:05.300 Let's give everyone a little tip here. 82 00:03:05.300 --> 00:03:07.000 If you do have a newer boat, 83 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.600 okay go ahead and put - this is the newer cap. 84 00:03:09.600 --> 00:03:11.600 Put that on there and spin that for everybody. 85 00:03:11.600 --> 00:03:12.800 *audible clicking* 86 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:16.300 John: If your boat is doing that you got a newer system right? 87 00:03:16.300 --> 00:03:18.300 Richard: Correct, but the newer systems 88 00:03:18.300 --> 00:03:20.700 the EPA says that they can make an audible 89 00:03:20.700 --> 00:03:22.500 sound as where the older systems don't. 90 00:03:22.500 --> 00:03:24.500 So now this is similar to what happens 91 00:03:24.500 --> 00:03:26.700 John: When I turn mine, mine doesn't make any noise. 92 00:03:26.700 --> 00:03:28.700 Richard: Correct. The other option is you may 93 00:03:28.700 --> 00:03:29.900 have a flip top cap 94 00:03:29.900 --> 00:03:30.600 *audible click* 95 00:03:30.600 --> 00:03:34.100 that makes a clicking sound to show that it's sealed and it's closed. 96 00:03:34.100 --> 00:03:36.900 John: Richard this is a pretty critical topic. 97 00:03:36.900 --> 00:03:38.900 How do viewers at home 98 00:03:38.900 --> 00:03:40.900 get more information from Perko? 99 00:03:40.900 --> 00:03:43.300 Richard: John they can go to perko.com 100 00:03:43.300 --> 00:03:45.400 and on that's we'll have all of the older 101 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:46.800 fuel system components. 102 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:48.800 There's also a link to our secondary 103 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:50.800 site perkofuelsystems.com 104 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:53.800 that has all of the EPA compliant components 105 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:55.500 on there as well. 106 00:03:55.500 --> 00:03:57.300 John: Well I sure do appreciate you 107 00:03:57.300 --> 00:03:59.000 making us aware. Great job! 108 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:00.000 Richard: Thanks John.